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Roderigo Borgia
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Posted - 2010.02.07 21:53:00 -
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Everyone talks about freedom but surely freedom is the ability to do as you please without consequence? So for space to be free surely that means pirates are free to kill whoever they want whenever they want? Miners are free to mine whatever they want too, and be they pirate, miner or defence militia's, they all have a responsibility to ensure their own safety rather than rely on others as that reliance is a bond and works against a truly free state.
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Roderigo Borgia
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Posted - 2010.02.08 00:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Archbishop
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they all have a responsibility to ensure their own safety rather than rely on others as that reliance is a bond and works against a truly free state.
I personally don't agree with the concept of "freedom" as God rules all. Still however you raise an interesting point that seems to indicate hypocrisy on the part of the Star Fraction. They frequently have claimed people should ensure their own safety (as they did in Mito where pirates "didn't shoot" them coincidently at gates). Yet recently they took part in wars against Amarr faction corporations and allied with the UK and others while screaming about "freedom" against the oppressive Amarrians. Why if they believe in people protecting themselves would they then fight on behalf of one group thus by default support one group? In their ideal world of freedom they would support NO group after all any support they give someone would be removing that persons responsibility to take care of themselves... as you put it.
Archbishop
i think you missed the sharp pointy bit of my statement - free people can do what they wish - if that means cooperating with pirates then they are free to do so and logically will when working towards compatible objectives
And while i certainly cant speak on their behalf, the star fraction appear to be fighting because they are free to do so and want the slaves held by the amarr empire and there lapdogs cva to have the freedom to choose to be pirates, outlaws, buisness men, labourers, teachers etc... of there own volition rather than forced to do what the slavers wants
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Roderigo Borgia
The Collective
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Posted - 2010.02.08 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: Xina Tutor
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I can tell you are an educated woman, a rare thing in many capsulears these days. You are correct that we live in a universe that has rules that cannot be denied, from the laws of physics down to how we pay for our ships. However the rules of how we interact with others are placed on us by non other than overselves, at least for the privalidged ones, and by this i mean the non slave population.
In choosing a path of forcing slaves to do their dirty work, the amarr empire and CVA have made enemies of those who beleive that everyone should have the right to chose there own actions.
you speak of freedom in providence, and extending that freedom to everyone by default, a laudable goal to be sure, though perhaps not for everyone ;), but you forget the slaves being whipped in your factories to build your ships and modules. Extend the freedom you speak of to these people and renounce CVA then you can sit out the war. If you desire this i would counsil you to have your leaders contact the -A- leadership and negoiate an independant peace.
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Roderigo Borgia
The Collective
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Posted - 2010.02.08 03:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Brief update here.
Congratulations, Wish we could have been there - they wont fight in 9UY!
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